Peter Todd @pete@petertodd.org

@ajtowns @orionwl ...apt uses PGP behind the scenes...

Anyway, "doesn't scale" is irrelevant. The actual use-case of PGP is for the experts to verify that high value use-cases are correct. Including that the automated systems are correct.

Don't get fooled by propaganda from academic cryptographers who have every reason to shit on an inherently fuzzy, human, problem that their math credentials can't solve.

@ajtowns Yeah, current implementations suck. It's still *far* better than the alternatives of blindly trusting certificate authorities, or just hoping that the first key you downloaded was right.

Again, none of this is relevant to the actual target market for PGP signatures: experts willing to put in the time to do things properly and think through the basis for their trust.

@ajtowns @orionwl BTW, re: "taking the time", I've consulted on the requirements for high-value storage. It's annoying, time consuming, work to do properly. Stuff like buying sealed laptops at in person stores randomly to verify install disks.

If you are doing it properly, verifying some web-of-trust is the least of your issues.

There are companies with wallets worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I've had clients with plans for billions (I seem to have dissuaded most of them...).

@orionwl @ajtowns Yup. secp256k1 too, so any scheme that can do single-key-multisig for Bitcoin can also do it for pgp.

@ajtowns @orionwl Web-of-trust works for it's intended audience: people who are taking the time to actually verify something rather than just relying on their web browsers.

Re: multisig, just sticking a few different signatures on releases manually is fine. Anyone verifying this stuff to that level is verifying it manually anyway. And PGP *does* allow for multiple signatures on one file, even in things like git commits.

@ajtowns @orionwl No. PGP is far superior to any of these single key standards, as it supports the web-of-trust.

PGP could be better. But until someone actually replaces it, why use niche standards that will never replace it?

@alyssa PHASE THREE IS COMING

PHASE FOUR WILL BE UNSTOPPABLE

https://stopeip1559.org/

Looks like ETH miners are pissed off.

@theitaliandude Honestly, it depends on risk vs reward. As very rough guess, if someone is *actively* trying to attack you with a double spend, a reasonable worst-case guess is there's a 0.1% chance of them succeeding after one confirmation. And even less after two. But there's tail risk - that model doesn't capture it all.

@Seccour What software made that graph?

@timp I trust that the images are real, as they're coming from a Chinese state supported media outlet; they're probably at least nominally quarantine centres.

But as you say, as for the rest... China is probably more effective than most countries at lockdown. But they're probably struggling like everyone else. And we know for a fact that they've been using a different definition of a case than other countries, excluding anyone who is "asymptomatic".

"It isn't a surrender: Wright's army of attorneys can show up, but they'll find they've been sent to fight the ocean-- a force they can't even engage with but which could easily sweep them away."

Great quote from Greg Maxwell on bitcoincore.org taking down the bitcoin whitepaper, and how the rest of the community has taken to hosting copies.

https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/l1uieu/bitcoinorgs_response_to_legal_threats_by_csw/gk26qoy/

"So, you want to get sued by a scammer?"

Greg Maxwell created a handy fill-in-the-blanks form letter for Craig Wright's lawyers, explaining how and why you're hosting the Bitcoin whitepaper:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311388.msg56156400

🍿😎

Photos taken yesterday of the 458 new quarantine centres for COVID-19 that are being built in Shijiazhuang, China.

Currently they're claiming 180cases/day, out of a 1.4 billion population.

I personally don't trust that number.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-01/21/c_139687460.htm

@jonf3n Interesting! Did you need a special vacuum pump? You could probably replicate that with off-the-shelf food storage bags.

@john @jeffcliff Just use Lightning. That's what the HCPP conference at Paralelni Polis does. Every year I go I end up doing a few dozen Lightning txs while I'm there for food and drinks. Works great.