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Andreas is incorrect here. A double spend _did_ happen.

Bitcoin's double-spend protection is probabilistic: after one confirmation, if the sender is attempting to double spend, the probability of success is extremely low. But it's still non-zero.

@lucash_dev Quebec is the police state. I'm in Toronto, Ontario. 😂

Though seriously, I'm sure this varies by individual officer. Heck, if I am correct in thinking this probably was a domestic violence call, there's a decent argument to not wearing a mask to communicate better (esp as English is often a second language here). So potentially an officer who thinks the rules should be enforced in general might not here.

Lol, as I was leaving my apartment two cops were in the elevator, probably responding to a call. Neither were wearing masks, a legal requirement indoors here (fwiw, both were black, so no stereotypes here).

It's no wonder enforcement seems lax. Good on them for focusing on their real jobs.

(decent chance that was a domestic violence call - fairly common reason for calls in my building unfortunately)

@pox But, remember that your examples are more "boring" lawsuits with fewer PR implications.

@pox ...and to be clear, I do not think attempting to stop people from calling it "Bitcoin" is symbolic. That has clear implications re: fraud. Exactly why trademark law exists in the first place.

@pox That's why I said it's mostly symbolic _at this point_. Taking down the very clearly MIT licensed code - or trying to stop use of the Bitcoin name - would be much harder legally. I won't be surprised if CSW tries. But we'll see.

@jb55 @jimmysong Yup. The 1-of-3 scheme means they are potentially spendable.

@pox Like it or not, even with money lawsuits take up tons of attention. And against a well resources adversary, there's no way to be sure you won't be personally affected.

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On his first day in office, President Biden just essentially eliminated all single-sex spaces and sports in the United States. Every day more and more women are waking up to the dangers of these policies. This will be the moment that pushes us over the edge.

https://www.womensliberationfront.org/news/president-biden-executive-orders-day-1

@jimmysong Not just archival nodes: that form of data embedding ends up in the UTXO set.

"If you want to contribute to bitcoin.org's legal defence against's CSW's copyright claims over the whitepaper and alleged ownership of the domain." twitter.com/CobraBitcoin/statu

Probably the best allocation of productivity: Cobra seems much more interested than others in a legal fight over something that is at this point mostly symbolic. 😂

Evidence that the bitcoin white paper was released under a MIT license: twitter.com/RME/status/1352237

web.archive.org/web/2009010620

Not as clear as you might want though; not going to blame people for declining to risk a legal fight over that level of nuance.

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@crunklord420 @verretor @josh That article is dumb. Double spending unconfirmed transactions happens all the time. So it occasionally being seen in confirmed tx with a single conf, and small 1 block reogrg, is unsurprising.

That's why if you are accepting a large amount of money you can't afford to lose, you wait for multiple confirmations. Which ~every exchange and other high-value use case does. The white paper itself had an example where six was needed.

@crunklord420 @verretor @josh That article is dumb. Double spending unconfirmed transactions happens all the time. So it occasionally being seen in confirmed tx with a single conf, and small 1 block reogrg, is unsurprising.

That's why if you are accepting a large amount of money you can't afford to lose, you wait for multiple confirmations. Which ~every exchange and other high-value use case does. The white paper itself had an example where six was needed.

@BrianLockhart @Sosthene @verretor Yup. In my court case with Lovecruft, they lied in their declaration. Clear as day.

In a sane world, I would have had the option to turn the case into a criminal perjury trial right there, stopping other proceedings, and the case would basically have been decided on the truth or falsity of a few details. But the system doesn't work that way.

@Clashicly @kekcoin @michaelfolkson @sjors Better universities won't make this problem go away. Some people got useless degrees when they could have gotten useful training. But for many, the options were a useless degree, or none at all.

@Sosthene @verretor Having a clear distinction between civil and criminal law is much more beneficial to corporate/wealthy interests than it is individuals. As an individual without a lot of money, any interaction with the law can easily destroy your life. As a corporation, you really don't want your employees and corporate officers to have to risk jail to implement your plans.

@Sosthene @verretor You'd think so. But the system just doesn't work like that.

Frankly I think both the civil and criminal legal systems end up with rules designed for the sake of generating work for lawyers, judges, and jailors more than getting results quickly. Particularly civil cases: a lot of problems could be solved with mechanisms to turn civil into criminal cases when fraud happens. But I think corporate law would be really, really, against that.

@kekcoin @michaelfolkson @sjors But there is an important difference: those workers much more often had the aptitude to retrain in other industries that were in demand. Or could be made in demand by bringing back outsourced jobs.

A modern day coal miner probably has the mechanical aptitude to work in a factory maintaining equipment. Bringing jobs back from China would do that. A liberal arts grad often doesn't.

@kekcoin @michaelfolkson @sjors Being a fine arts grads I've seen this first hand... Lots of people out there who are incapable of thinking logically at the level required to hold an in demand STEM job. Many of those people are more than capable of doing other types of work. But the world just doesn't have that much demand for artists.

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