@pete I wonder if their PCR tests target the same spike protein, the mRNA vaccine generates...

@akhavr PCR tests are based on amplifying and detecting RNA, not proteins, so that shouldn't be an issue.

@pete yeah, forgot that

@kalle I don't mean dark literally. I mean hours and intensity of sunlight. Shortest day of the year in Stockholm is almost half as long as shortest day in Tel Aviv.

@pete I know, I just wanted to brag about the beautiful snow we just got here.

@kalle Pff, we get so much we don't need to brag.

@kekcoin Seriously though, all the stats and other indications are that they're social distancing a lot less than other countries right now. Though the specifics might not matter - eg they have some of the lowest mask usage. But masks don't seem to have much effect. Stuff like average # of people in a household might be far more important.

@pete @kekcoin how come everyone is ignoring we have an effective and cheap treatment for this cold/flu virus?

@Zachary_BTC @kekcoin What treatment exactly?

@pete @kekcoin

HydroxyChloroquine and zinc. HCQ acts as a zinc ionophore afaik and allows the zinc to slow and disrupt the virus life cycle helping you out while your body does it's thing. Look at places that use it for malaria prevention and have it OTC, very few cases/deaths.

@pete @kekcoin

The MSM screamed heartattack!, Danger!, etc but anyone who knows can tell you its been used for many things for decades safely. The media pushed "Will every American who needs a ventilator get one Donald?" for how long, meanwhile the ventilators are literally killing people.

@Zachary_BTC @kekcoin The fact is, HCQ has underperformed in actual randomized trials. Though they keep on doing trials on treatment methods that are subtlety different from what people claim it works well at, so maybe there is in fact a niche usage where it has some benefit.

Meanwhile, look at how Remdesivir was hailed as a miracle, when it too doesn't look like it works very well. But at *much* higher cost, and without the decades of safe usage: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2021/01/31/remdesivir-covid-coronavirus/

@Zachary_BTC @kekcoin ...and don't get me started on that ridiculous fishtank story... Media may have very well managed to help cover up a premeditated murder.

@pete @Zachary_BTC I'll bite... Fishtank story?

@kekcoin @Zachary_BTC IIRC I found an even better write-up months ago. But this matches what I remember: https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/man-who-died-ingesting-fish-tank-cleaner-remembered-as-intelligent-levelheaded/

tl;dr: spouse with history of potential abuse claims intelligent, level headed, Democrat donating engineer voluntarily ingested fishtank cleaner that doesn't even contain HCQ because he believed Trump. Riiiight...

@pete @Zachary_BTC So it wasn't the husband but the wife. Does that really change that much about the story?

@kekcoin @Zachary_BTC I mean, the mainstream story was these were idiot Trump supporters. The actual facts looks much more like an abusive spouse killing her husband and using the politics to get away with it. Police investigated - as is standard procedure - but didn't lay charges IIUC. I would not be surprised if the media fuss made them disinclined to investigate fully. Of course, even with a full investigation, it could be hard to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

@pete @Zachary_BTC From the way the story is told she also ingested it. Did I misunderstand that? If she did, then it doesn't really seem like murder.

@kekcoin @Zachary_BTC Easy: she ingests a small amount, and gives him a large amount. Obvious deniability.

She wound up in hospital and recovered; he died almost immediately. That doesn't sound like the same dose to me.

@kekcoin @pete that wasn't even hcq. It was a totally.different chemical. Hcq has been touted by numerous doctors who have all used it and had people.breathing better in a matter of hours. Lots of studies didn't use zinc at all.