i'm confused by GNOME's behavior of automatically deleting desktop workspaces when they're empty, it breaks my assumption that certain programs are on a certain workspace number

does anyone know a way to turn this off ?

@orionwl in the Gnome Tweak Tool, you can select to have static workspaces, which sounds like what you might want.

@cbaines thank you, that worked !

hadn't expected it to be so easy 😀

@orionwl @cbaines ...there goes my chance to recommend some nerdy tiling window manager...

@pete @cbaines heh—i'm no stranger to those 🙂

i used awesomewm on my previous laptop
the thing is, being able to script the WM in lua gives flexibility, but it's also yet another program to fix bugs in, to collect snippets for, to have to keep up to date with API changes

GNOME (with tweaks) works ok enough for me for now

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@orionwl @cbaines Heh, I hate having to fiddle with windows sizes; awesomevm all the way. Works fine with qubes too: qubes-os.org/doc/awesome/

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@pete @cbaines
i agree, i only use two window layouts in practice: full screen, and two windows side by side
(this is trivial enough to be easy with GNOME key shortcuts as well 😀 )

another thing that made me switch is that awesomewm doesn't work with wayland

@orionwl @cbaines heh, that's a good point! I use more than that, because I often have logs running, and I really like being able to flip which window has focus. But it should be doable to add the key functionality of tiling window managers to gnome with sufficiently clever shortcuts...

Heck, how hard could it be to give gnome workspaces a preferred window layout option? AwesomeWM already does that basically.

@pete @orionwl @cbaines It's possible to give Gnome tiling functionality with extensions.gnome.org/extension

Not sure about the fixed layout thing, it might also do that well enough for your needs.

@kekcoin @pete @orionwl @cbaines Is KDE still a thing? I don't think it recovered from KDE4.

@verretor @kekcoin @pete @cbaines
yes KDE is still a thing (haven't used it for >10 years though so no idea what it's like now)

@verretor KDE Plasma is really solid and one of the lightest desktop environments now. I'm on that or dwm depending on the box.
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@verretor tbf that's 3 yrs ago. Both gnome 3 and KDE Plasma 5 weren't as stable as today. You might be surprised.
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@verretor @kekcoin @livestradamus @pete @cbaines @orionwl it was part of an idea that I stopped working to make a demoscene-thing synced up with this track called FUCK YOUR CVLT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgTcvrBBz1k
@knarkzel @verretor @cbaines @kekcoin @livestradamus @orionwl @pete I've been using i3wm for like 8 years and when I tried dwm I was like "this is almost the same but now I have to hack it to make it more like i3wm" so I stopped. All minimalist tiling managers are nearly identical.
@crunklord420 @knarkzel @cbaines @kekcoin @livestradamus @orionwl @pete @verretor Does dwm have a tab mode by default or is it tiling only? I find myself using the tabbed mode in i3 frequently, because of my small screen.
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@verretor @knarkzel @kekcoin @livestradamus @crunklord420 @cbaines @orionwl I used to use xmonad on a truly terrible Thinkpad X120e. 1.6GHz AMD E-350 baby!

Cute though.

@verretor It is actually pretty decent, I installed on an extra laptop recently and I was really pleased, but my daughter's laptop crashed so I let her have it.

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