cleaning out my gmail box

i will hold on to the google account to prevent impersonation, but please don't use it anymore, if you really need to mail me use my protonmail address (i strongly prefer other contact methods though like IRC+OTR or on here)

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@orionwl I always recommend getting your own domain. Preferably self hosting.

@pete @orionwl are there risks of your domain host spying on you? I know it’s a wager of ProtonMail vs Godaddy, but I guess I trust PM guys more than most domain registrars.

@ron @orionwl Pretty low. It's kinda a complex topic, because there's a few different attack scenarios. But basically, subverting DNS records is pretty noisey in most circumstances, so it's not likely at all that a DNS provider would do it. Not entirely impossible. But I've never heard of one doing it.

@pete @orionwl I see, thanks a lot. OTOH, it could technically be seized right? More context from PM team regarding .com and .ch domain choice: protonmail.com/support/knowled

@ron @orionwl Depends on what domain name you pick.

Anyway seizure is a risk for any country code. It's not that common though.

@pete @orionwl Thanks, and one last thing: you mentioned “getting your own domain, preferably self hosting”. What do you mean by self-hosting domain, or were you referring to self-hosting email ?

@pete i considered self-hosting email but it's too much setup work nowadays

i don't use mail much enough for that to be worth it

and the thing is, i already host quite a lot of communication infrastructure (mastodon, matrix, etc)

if it would be realistically possible to live without mail address i'd probably cancel it completely 🙂 but for now i'm happy with protonmail

@orionwl At least use a custom domain to make it easy to switch in the future: protonmail.com/support/knowled

That's just a few minutes of work to setup.

@pete heh i have that setup, it's not something i advertise but you can actually mail me on the mastodon address and it ends up in the protonmail box 😀

@orionwl Good! If you didn't, I'd have to point out that in addition to fine arts grads, I even know some fine arts dropouts that managed to figure out how to use their own domain for email. 😂

@orionwl BTW in case you aren't aware, gmail does allow you to forward all mail to another address.

@pete @orionwl and in such cases what I've done is also add a "vacation auto response" in gmail that notifies people that the address, while being forwarded, is not the preferred means of reaching out.

@pox @pete though OTOH, i receive a lot of spam and notifications on my gmail address that i'd rather be rid of, so i'm not sure

@orionwl @pete easy, forward them in a way that matches a rule in your target inbox that tags all forwarded messages as such. e.g. "old_gmail".
idk if proton lets you do this but it works well when migrating between gmail accounts.
btw, caveat, expect to get some bounceback noise from bots that keep sending you spam to the old address (gmail's vacation responder will try to auto-reply to them and then forward the bounce back to you 😁)
still worth it imo

@orionwl @pete checkout mailcow.mail 👍

Built with postfix, dovecot, and rspamd.

I run it behind a firewall, I only open up port 25 to receive email. IMAPS and SMTPS are only accessible via trusted networks.

@orionwl @pete I used to run vanilla postfix, spamassassin, and dovecot for years, but since switched to mailcow.

@pete @orionwl After 10+ years of my domain with Gsuite/Apps/etc, I moved to ProtonMail last week. With their full support of SPF, DKIM, DMARC + sieve script scripts, I haven’t seen this little spam in 20 years.

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