Just realized running a community server will be eternal FUD rebutting endevour
I'll probably shut down https://bitcoinhackers.org
I've better things to do w/ my life than rebutting scammers & FUDsters
Will likely run a Mastodon for Myself & a few and then just connect to others
@nvk How much does the VM cost to run per month? Be good for someone else to just take it over, given that so many have joined it.
@nvk @alanturing @jb55 Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. I really don't think there is enough traction right now to transition to a pile of independent servers - lots of less technical people on this instance, and it's a big overhead to set one up relative to the alternatives. More likely that Bitcoin mastodon will just die.
If we do cease to exist here, I will be sniffing out the next "massive server" to join. Centralization doesn't matter when, at any time, people could start going other places if needed. It's like saying there should be alts and not just Bitcoin because it's too centralized, imo.
@drbitcoinmd @pete @nvk @alanturing @jb55 honestly is mastodon the right long term solution anyway? IMO until we have a pure p2p worldwide mesh network (no backbone needed) we will be vulnerable. This instance is helpful as a stepping point. I would be very sad if it disappeared and like others said would probably just go elsewhere to find a community.
I don't know your time frame on this, but a way to turn this into a positive would be for us to get some people together around a new instance where lightning would be incorporated. It would create a community goal as something to work toward, as well as an understanding that this instance would be shutting or scaling down.
@alanturing take your time.
@nvk @jb55 The fact is it's very valuable to have an easy on-ramp to Mastodon. Like I say, it doesn't have to be perfectly decentralized to be a big improvement; perfect is the enemy of better. I'm sure people here would be willing to take the problem off your hands (modulo funding, I'd be willing to take it over).
@pete @nvk yeah I don't disagree with what @nvk is saying, but people are still new to the fediverse. this will harm decentralization because non-technical people will just leave here and sign up to larger hubs.
at least we can educate here in the meantime. your call though, but I don't see the harm in passing admin to someone.
@nvk this is the way.
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