@drgo @lucash_dev Yeah, my guess is we'll find out that basically getting vaccinated makes clear sense if you're old/fat/etc, and not if you're healthy/young. Sounds like the spike protein is inherently toxic, so it's just a matter of how much is generated in the blood stream. And probably this didn't show up in clinical trials as they were careful to only inject into muscle by aspirating to make sure they weren't in a vein, which most places aren't doing.
@drgo @lucash_dev Notable there's been a fair bit of resistance to people filing FOIA requests to get data on where the vaccines actually end up in the body. And some data indicating that it can end up everywhere, unlike the "standard" safety claims made in the popular press.
@drgo @lucash_dev ...and of course, dosage may be an issue as actual mRNA dosage depends on conversion rate in your body, adding another unknown to the equation. That might even be influenced by things like the exact type of tissue the vaccine ends up in, and general metabolic activity (does using a muscle after injection change that? Maybe?)
@drgo @lucash_dev Note the example I know of personally of someone with poor health and an existing heart problem whose heart problem got worse *both* when they were infected, and when they got vaccinated. Likely the same basic mechanism in both cases.